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Ryu Taylor

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-Loyal and true friend to the cartoon's English dub.
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22 Oct 2017 11:45 PM
Joined: 23 Jan 2016
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We are trying to show English viewers here on this site just how bad the production value of the anime has got to now. It's atrociously bad in all aspects of production. We want the dub to be good. Most of the staff here grew up on our respective dubs of the series.


Fair enough.

But personally, I don't see what's so bad about it at all. I've been enjoying it since the dub began, and still am enjoying it. It's nice to know what changed, but that doesn't ruin my experience.
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22 Oct 2017 10:14 PM
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The music between the Japanese original and the current English dub is a absolute no contest. The style, tempo, mood, emotional response, musical cues, not to mention the themes used are from the actual games are completely better. The English dub uses synthesized music and is overly repeated, one episode we count the 'Ed Goldfish Batman Theme' was used 8 times! Music plays an integral part in the show and unfortunately the English dub music cannot compare at all to the Japanese original.


No offense, but it looks like you're trying to make me believe all of that and change my mind on which soundtrack is better. You are right that music plays an integral part in the show. The dub music helped me connect with the show so much more than the Japanese music ever did (want me to give examples?). Nothing's changing that.

I think that if a piece of music makes its debut in anything with Pokemon's name on it, it's Pokemon music. The dub music has as much a right to be considered Pokemon music as the game music itself. Not to mention the fact that it has the right to be liked and respected.

Yes, the Oracion song is good, but it didn't make me cry. Plus, I don't know where to watch Pokenchi, so I'll just have to take your word for it.
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22 Oct 2017 09:38 PM
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People can prattle on and on about how "BAD" the dub is all they want (though I admit the host of this video, while I disagree with just about everything she said in the video, is more reasonable than most); I'm seeing this one dubbed, as it's the only way I enjoy the show. The Japanese version was just disappointment after disappointment in the time I was watching it (the final straws were SM021 and M20). Far too many characters sound awful ([i]especially Meowth[/i]), the VAs always either overact or underact, the music is terribly edited and not even that well composed (as of XY; before then, it sounded great; though still, Shinji Miyazaki is most definitely not the John Williams he's built up to be), and the writing has no personality to it whatsoever. It broke the promises its fans made about its quality, and honestly, I don't think it's even worth respecting.

I feel the dub fixed all these problems, and have been even in the days 4kids were the dubbers (the First Movie being the only exception): everyone generally sounds great, the VAs know how to actually act, the music sounds better and is generally edited better (I can count the rare times the dub music really was unfitting on only one of my hands), and the writing has actual personality to it. I absolutely cannot watch this show any other way.
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23 Jan 2016 03:36 PM
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This was a great battle. I would've liked it better if Paul had a more extreme reaction to losing, but oh well.
-Loyal and true friend to the cartoon's English dub.