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15 Oct 2011 02:27 PM
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As Adamant stated, we started adding music tracks for earlier episodes before the two new BGM cd sets were released. I have since converted tracks over to the new sets that had the same tracks. We feel its best to use those two cds as the basis as most people will probably have bought those sets instead of the older cds. We went over 1-4 already and still need to review 5+ as you've said, so any information to help us is greatly appreciated.


I meant that I would be going through from the episodes 5 onwards to report possible tracks that someone forgot to put, wrong tracks, links to the older CDs instead of the more recent ones, tracks marked as unreleased when they're currently not and such. And I have noticed a lot of all that (not to disrespect the work, I just want it to be perfect). Of course I respect the work made beforehand.
Anyways, here we go (today I checked the episodes from 12 to 16).

The episodes 5-6, 9-14 and 16 featured no unreleased music.
The unreleased musics in the episodes 7-8 and 15 remain as such.

Episode 14 - Electric Shock Showdown / Electric Shock Showdown! Kuchiba Gym
- There's one music marked as unreleased, which is currently released, that's the following music, which plays in the episode with the beginning section cut off:
04:34 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3913, 1997-1998-M65A


Episode 15 - Battle Aboard the St. Anne / Battle Aboard the St. Anne!
- The music at 06:59 is correct, however, due to the site policy where

Quote From: Adamant
We use the recent "complete BGM" sets (which aren't FULLY complete) for consistency.


I think it's better to use the link you have been using for the same BGM in the previous episodes:
http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3889, this CD, instead of the one at http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/55#Track-401

- There are 5 tracks missing in the BGM list of the episode:
09:45 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3911, 1997-1998-M63: The Koiking salesman tricks Kojiro into the supposed "advantages" of raising many Koiking
12:20 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3905, 1997-1998-M50: Satoshi trades his Butterfree with the Ratta of the Gentleman
14:03 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3906, 1997-1998-M51: The doors of S.S. St. Anne close as the Rockets unveil themselves in the ship
17:23 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/203#Track-3562, 1997-1998-M57 ポケモンジム: Satoshi sends his Pigeon to aid the battle against the Rockets
20:34 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3881, 1997-1998-M23: The group and the Rocket Gang trio are trapped inside the wrecking ship, as the episode ends


Episode 16 - Pokemon Shipwreck / A Pokémon Robinsonade

- Replace the timing of the "music" at 11:47 in favor of 11:46, please. The two eyecatches are usually 7 seconds apart. But if you find best to retain the previous timing, I won't complain. Who am I afterall, just a newb with around 10 posts.

- There are 14 tracks (or instances of them) missing in the BGM list of the episode:
01:28 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3881, 1997-1998-M23: The episode begins with the same music that ended the previous, with the narrator recapping the shipwreck events. It ends at the title card.
03:44 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3918, 1997-1998-M70: Musashi and Kojiro imagine themselves taking a sunbath in the beach
04:59 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/203#Track-3560, 1997-1998-M56 戦い(VSトレーナー): Musashi sends out her Arbo to make a hole in the ship's base
06:15 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3921, 1997-1998-M72: Kasumi sends out her Tosakinto to try to find an exit to the ship
07:15 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3906, 1997-1998-M51: The Rocket Gang trio and the group send out each one's respective Pokémon to battle
07:44 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3914, 1997-1998-M66: Rocket Gang, the group and their Pokémon struggle to retain balance of the ship, as they go to one corner of the corridor and another
11:46 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3908, 1997-1998-M53: Dare da?
11:53 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3909, 1997-1998-M54: Koiking!
12:14 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3881, 1997-1998-M23: Satoshi sends out his Hitokage to try to make a hole in the ship's base... at the ceiling
16:29 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3904, 1997-1998-M49: Night falls and the whole crew of the raft is asleep, except for the splashing Koiking
17:11 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3914, 1997-1998-M66: The entire starving crew of the raft imagines possible fish courses out of the Koiking
19:03 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3915, 1997-1998-M67: Bound to the raft, the water Pokémon of the crew swim away from the rampaging Gyarados
19:51 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3874, 1997-1998-M14: More Gyarados appear, to the despair of the raft's crew
20:46 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3905, 1997-1998-M50: The group and the Rocket Gang trio's members are separated from each other in the hurricane, ending the episode in another cliffhanger
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15 Oct 2011 03:28 PM
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I meant that I would be going through from the episodes 5 onwards to report possible tracks that someone forgot to put, wrong tracks, links to the older CDs instead of the more recent ones, tracks marked as unreleased when they're currently not and such. And I have noticed a lot of all that (not to disrespect the work, I just want it to be perfect). Of course I respect the work made beforehand.Anyways, here we go (today I checked the episodes from 12 to 16).


Yeah, we realized that 6->30ish needed to be double checked since the CD's have come out after we'd started doing the music project so its good to get it double checked before moving on to episodes that are blank. It's never a bother believe me, we are willing for anyone with the music knowledge to help out. It's greatly appreciated. We worked hard to get the music pages and cd's going so that we could get these episode lists up and going to be a good reference for people. Hopefully it will become a great reference for Pokemon BGM fans!

I've corrected the PM14 & 15 edits as you suggested and Erlade added the PM16 music. Thanks for the info!

http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/14#Music
http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/15#Music
http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/16#Music
16 Oct 2011 10:50 AM
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Today I made sure that the 4 first episodes didn't have any kind of problems and yes, nothing to report there. I also saw the episodes 17 and 18. So now the first 18 episodes don't need to be checked anymore.

The episodes 1-4 and 17-18 featured no unreleased music.

Episode 17 - The Island of Giant Pokemon / Island of the Giant Pokémon!?

- Of course, replace the blank instance at 10:57 with the actual Dare da music, please.

- There are 9 BGMs (or instances of them) missing in the track list:
01:28 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3874, 1997-1998-M14: Narrator recaps the Gyarados' attack on the group and Rocket Gang trio
06:49 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3914, 1997-1998-M66: Nyarth persuades Arbo and Dogas to attack the group's Pokémon, in vain
10:30 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3915, 1997-1998-M67: Rocket Gang trio runs from what would turn out to be a giant robot Fire
10:57 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3908, 1997-1998-M53: Dare da?
11:04 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3909, 1997-1998-M54: Yadon!
14:11 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3914, 1997-1998-M66: The Rocket Gang trio spots the "Satoshi's" Pikachu in distance from the phone booth
17:16 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3874, 1997-1998-M14: Giant robot Lizardon and Kamex appear in distance
18:11 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/203#Track-3562, 1997-1998-M57 ポケモンジム: The Rocket Gang trio and group's Pokémon jump into the arms of their respective trainers, in the cart
20:11 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3918, 1997-1998-M70: Satoshi, Kasumi and Takeshi see Aopulco and its beach in front of their eyes

Episode 18 - Holiday at Aopulco

- Of course, replace the blank instance at 09:19 with the actual Dare da music, please.

There are 9 BGMs (or instances of them) missing in the track list:
01:56 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3918, 1997-1998-M70: Shots of Aopulco beach, the group has fun
04:50 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3914, 1997-1998-M66: A hag appears next to Musashi, Kojiro and Nyarth
05:44 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3887, 1997-1998-M28: Musashi invites customers to the hag's restaurant while taunting the group
07:11 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3915, 1997-1998-M67: Nyarth sabotages the group's restaurant business
08:32 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3914, 1997-1998-M66: The hag and Rocket Gang trio appear at the doors of Ryū's restaurant, enjoying the ruin of its owner
09:19 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3908, 1997-1998-M53: Dare da?
09:26 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3909, 1997-1998-M54: Hag!
13:57 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3911, 1997-1998-M63: Kasumi's angry at Musashi and Kojiro kicking her out of the exhibition stage
18:37 - http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/203#Track-3562, 1997-1998-M57 ポケモンジム: Satoshi sends out Pigeon and Hitokage against Rocket Gang trio's... rocket
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16 Oct 2011 02:13 PM
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Today I made sure that the 4 first episodes didn't have any kind of problems and yes, nothing to report there. I also saw the episodes 17 and 18. So now the first 18 episodes don't need to be checked anymore.The episodes 1-4 and 17-18 featured no unreleased music.


Music tracks for episodes now added to database:
http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/17#Music
http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/18#Music
17 Oct 2011 12:53 PM
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The episode 19's BGM was almost complete, the only musics that needed to be added were the Title Card music, the Dare da eyecatches and the unreleased Mezase Pokémon Master instrumental at the end to a less extent.
The other episodes were missing more tracks. I decided to finish for today at 26.

Note: I don't know the name of the instruments that play at 05:06 in episode 23, when Ghos appears in the room where Musashi and Nyarth are. They're not really a music, but it would be nice if someone checked the episode, heard the instruments and added a context to them, putting them in the BGM list.
17 Oct 2011 01:13 PM
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Note: I don't know the name of the instruments that play at 05:06 in episode 23, when Ghos appears in the room where Musashi and Nyarth are. They're not really a music, but it would be nice if someone checked the episode, heard the instruments and added a context to them, putting them in the BGM list.

That definitely sounds like an unreleased track and quite possibly could be a one of as I don't remember it being played at any other time. Added it to the music page for PM23. http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/23#Music. The only track that has drums like that track that I could think of was http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3894 but its not even remotely close.
17 Oct 2011 01:30 PM
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That definitely sounds like an unreleased track and quite possibly could be a one of as I don't remember it being played at any other time. Added it to the music page for PM23. http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/23#Music. The only track that has drums like that track that I could think of was http://www.pocketmonsters.net/cd/214#Track-3894 but its not even remotely close.


You think it is? *shrug* I thought those were just the same drums playing over and over. But whatever. It did sound more like a music than a sound effect.
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17 Oct 2011 01:42 PM
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You think it is? *shrug* I thought those were just the same drums playing over and over. But whatever. It did sound more like a music than a sound effect.

Yeah, generally don't post the 'sound effects' in the music list as sfx are basically only a second or two. That track was almost 30 seconds long and did have a musical rhythm so definitely worth mentioning.
18 Oct 2011 12:10 AM
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Added all the music tracks for:
http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/30#Music
http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/31#Music

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18 Oct 2011 08:46 AM
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Thanks for making my work easier. Today I checked the episodes 27-29 and 32-34. The episodes 27-29 weren't really missing anything, but the others needed more checking and adding tracks.

And I think I found two unreleased tracks. The first is at 12:11 in Episode 28, when Kojiro starts talking about "art" and roses appear in the background. Then a 7-second long BGM plays. Be sure to verify that it's really not on any CD.
There seems to be another unreleased BGM at 12:21, in Episode 34, when a flashback is made to Tomo's past. Not sure if it's a music, because at first those are just the Garura "singing", but then there seems to emerge a lullaby music out of it. Check if you please.

I've also noticed that one of BGM's timings in the Episode 28 (at 17:32) was a bit off (it should have been 14 seconds earlier). Same for another music in the Episode 32 (at 09:54) that should have been 4 seconds earlier. I've corrected them.

Now the first 35 episodes are pretty much done, sans possible few seconds of rarely heard and short unreleased tracks. Tomorrow I'll start with the first blank episodes of Kanto. The real challenge starts for me now.
Last edited 18 Oct 2011 01:49 PM by ivantuga2